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mazey vorstagg · Jul 29, 2007, 06:36 PM // 18:36

In lots of Ascalon quests Duke Barradin's group of soldiers is referred to as the Vanguard. I'm presuming the Ebon Vanguard are human soldiers from ascalon (from what I've seen) so do you think they are one and the same?

It would be nice to have all the old Ascalons involved in the plot again, I for one really like some of the Ascalon Leader's armor.

Alternatively, Duke B's vanguard wears red cloaks so perhaps they are the Crimson Vanguard and the Ebon Vanguard are a different detachment of the Ascalon forces that were sent into Charr lands and were cut off from their route home.

GloryFox · Jul 29, 2007, 06:45 PM // 18:45

It will be good to return to Ascalon, and see what has happened. I wonder if we will see any other people from pre searing besides Gwen in Eye of the North.

greensuitjacket · Jul 30, 2007, 02:34 AM // 02:34

Duke Barradin was next in line to Ascalon's throne. Now that "SPOILERS" Rurik is dead and his father isn't likely to have another child there is no heir to the Ascalonian throne... Or is there.
A lot of NPCs in the desolation say they are waiting for the arrival of another true blooded heir. They arn't refering to the Ossa line, but rather the line of primeaval kings ending in Ruriks father.
In GW:EN we join up with the Ebon Vanguard, resistance fighters trapped behind ascalon's wall. Fighting among them is the other true blooded heir to the primeaval kings, Gwen. She doesn't know it when you join her but as the last true blooded heir she will aid you in defeating the Destroyers.
GG

Sum Gai · Jul 30, 2007, 04:29 AM // 04:29

From what I saw of the GW:EN trailer, there were a bunch of Ascalonian soldiers near the end. They wore black.

Black = Ebon = different than the red wearing soldiers in Prophecies?

-Loki- · Jul 30, 2007, 06:50 AM // 06:50

I don't think it's anything that interesting. According to the official wiki, they are just Ascalon Soldiers trapped behind enemy lines.

Clord · Jul 30, 2007, 07:52 AM // 07:52

Ebon Vanguard might be some kind elite troops.

dargon · Jul 30, 2007, 08:20 AM // 08:20

Greensuitjacket: would mind mentioning when you're going to potentially spoiler something? I'm not say whetehr or not you did or didn't, but it's generally a polite thing to do.

doinchi · Jul 30, 2007, 08:23 AM // 08:23

Maybe thier a "rogue" group of soldiers that left, following the footsteps of Rurik and the group of brave heros(thats us!). King Adelbern wanted to stay and fight the Charr, but Rurik wanted to lead the Ascalons away from Ascalon. Many of the men under Adelberns command would probably feel that they would be wasting their lives by throwing themselves at the numerically superior Charr. Maybe this Captain Langmahr that Gwen mentions lead a small rebellion and took control of a detachment of Ascalon soldiers, did away with their red capes and made them don black ones, named them the Ebon Vanguard and engaged in guerilla warfare up north.

Retribution X · Jul 31, 2007, 12:41 PM // 12:41

THe Ebon vanguard I believe is a elite soldier group, that was on a mission to flank the charr. Then the searing happened, and the charr came up behind them, and they are fighting with the charr still.

stiffler · Jul 31, 2007, 01:25 PM // 13:25

Well they sound leet if they have been fighting the charr for the last 6 years and are still alive.

Mordakai · Jul 31, 2007, 06:24 PM // 18:24

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Originally Posted by greensuitjacket

Duke Barradin was next in line to Ascalon's throne. Now that "SPOILERS" Rurik is dead and his father isn't likely to have another child there is no heir to the Ascalonian throne... Or is there.
A lot of NPCs in the desolation say they are waiting for the arrival of another true blooded heir. They arn't refering to the Ossa line, but rather the line of primeaval kings ending in Ruriks father.
In GW:EN we join up with the Ebon Vanguard, resistance fighters trapped behind ascalon's wall. Fighting among them is the other true blooded heir to the primeaval kings, Gwen. She doesn't know it when you join her but as the last true blooded heir she will aid you in defeating the Destroyers.
GG

SPOILER?

About Gwen's father: "My daddy was a great warrior, but he died when I was seven. Mommy says maybe we'll see him again after we die. Do you think that's true?"

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Gwen

Neo Nugget · Jul 31, 2007, 08:31 PM // 20:31

:O i wonder who Gwens daddy is

?

Jumping Is Uselss · Aug 01, 2007, 01:42 AM // 01:42

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Originally Posted by Neo Nugget

:O i wonder who Gwens daddy is

?

A wammo with a fiery dragon sword. J/k Just a thought though

creelie · Aug 01, 2007, 03:01 AM // 03:01

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Originally Posted by -Loki-

I don't think it's anything that interesting. According to the official wiki, they are just Ascalon Soldiers trapped behind enemy lines.

Hehe, yeah, their armor turned black because it's just THAT dirty =P

super strokey · Aug 01, 2007, 03:05 AM // 03:05

man that more talk i hear about GWEN the more i want a perfect firey dragon sword... any know of a good place to farm them lol

Personette · Aug 01, 2007, 04:12 AM // 04:12

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Originally Posted by greensuitjacket

Duke Barradin was next in line to Ascalon's throne.
GG

Wait a second - Duke Barradin was next in line for the throne? Wouldn't that mean he would have to be closely related to the king - most likely a brother? And yet his daughter, Lady Althea, was going to marry Prince Rurik...who would then probably be her first cousin? Ewww.

trobinson97 · Aug 01, 2007, 05:11 AM // 05:11

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Originally Posted by Personette

Wait a second - Duke Barradin was next in line for the throne? Wouldn't that mean he would have to be closely related to the king - most likely a brother? And yet his daughter, Lady Althea, was going to marry Prince Rurik...who would then probably be her first cousin? Ewww.

There's a lot of inbreeding when it comes to royal lines and in "elite" wealthy families. Maybe not as close as that, but still a lot of it. Even FDR married his cousin.

Onarik Amrak · Aug 01, 2007, 05:33 AM // 05:33

Actually, I'm pretty sure Duke Barradin is of no relation to King Adelbern.

If I remember correctly, Barradin is part of the old nobility of Ascalon.

Adelbern is actually a warrior king who got elected to become king after the Guild Wars.

tenshi_strife · Aug 01, 2007, 06:26 AM // 06:26

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Originally Posted by super strokey

man that more talk i hear about GWEN the more i want a perfect firey dragon sword... any know of a good place to farm them lol

ive got 2 ^^. but there is really no place to farm them they drop in all high level areas..... look it up on the wiki. so really just farm where you normally farm and hope to god one drops.

Thunder79 · Aug 01, 2007, 10:14 AM // 10:14

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Originally Posted by tenshi_strife

ive got 2 ^^. but there is really no place to farm them they drop in all high level areas..... look it up on the wiki. so really just farm where you normally farm and hope to god one drops.

Just finished Thunderhead Keep and got a gold one out of one of the chests there....this was in normal mode (working on protector)

but yeah...they drop pretty much everywhere in high level areas...might get lucky if you hit hard mode and pop a few chests with lockpicks